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 xmasdale
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  Posted 07/05/2008 11:47:07 AM
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Hi Yorky guys and others,

Many of you know me.  I registered on this site some time ago though I don't often pop in here.  I see plenty others I do know here.

I'm in a sense a refugee here, because I am unhappy about the way the forum on nineeleven.co.uk is being administered.  I have not actually been banned from there yet, but I have been told that some of my opinions are unacceptable on that forum, had some of my posts removed as a consequence and had other posts deleted without explanation.  I do not want to post in a place where I have to keep looking over my shoulder to see whether I'm going to be allowed to say what I want.

My screen name, Xmasdale, is a translation into English of my true name, Noel Glynn, from the French and the Cornish.

I am frequently called English, indeed I was born and brought up in the beautiful and second largest city conurbation in England: West Midlands.  We have a lovely accent in the Birminham area which most of you will not hear much trace of in my normal speech, because in my childhood Mummy and Daddy subjected me to enormous pressure not to use the local vowel sounds, eventually sending me away to a posh boarding public school, which I hated, to ensure that the Brummy accent was completely eliminated from my speech.  Result: I can talk Brummy any time I like.  To me it is a lovely sound, like a ripe blue stilton cheese.

The public school for me was hellish.  Arbitrary power of corporal punishment was excercised by 17 year old prefects who were totally out of their depth.  The result was like living in a fascist state.  I have hated arbitrary power ever since and have spent much of my adult life campaigning for freedom, justice and peace ever since.

But despite my English upbringing I have always identified as a Celtic mixture.  My dad's family were Cornish shippers and doctors who had moved to Liverpool and also spent a lot of time in neighbouring North Wales.  My mum's parents, who came from Aberfeldy and Hamilton, had moved from central Scotland to Essex, so she was born and brought up an Essex girl. images/icones/icon10.gif

But really, though I prefer the epithet "British" to "English", I identify primarily as a human being, a world citizen, secondarily as European, and only thirdly as British.  All my adult life I have been surrounded by people of various nationalities and ethnicities.  It constantly reminds us that all humans, regardless of nationality, ethnicity, religion, language etc are essentially the same.  They just want to get on with their lives living and bringing up their families in peace.  War and political strife gets foisted on us by a few powerful people who stand to profit from it and by systems, such as unfettered free-market capitalism, which is a powerful force with no conscience that only serves the interests of the rich and powerful.  We should expose their skulduggary with all our might, but also realise that "sharing", a principle which is to some degree taught as a virtue in all the world's great religions and ethical systems, needs to be chosen and enacted in contrast to the current worship of competition.

I mention refugees because since around 1980 I have been working with refugees in London.  It has been my window on the world and has brought me face to face with the violation of human rights going on all over the world, always in the name of security, but in fact carried out by autocrats to prevent a privileged class from having to share with the common people.

Let's not be fooled by their justifications for what they do.

Now, having been in the 9/11 truth movement since its inception in London in February 2004, I want to concentrate on working with people who want to concentrate on campaigning on the most telling evidence that 9/11 was an inside job and to avoid mixing it up with other issues.  In my experience single issue campaigns are more likely to succeed, whereas broad coalitions are less effective.  Nevertheless I welcome initiatives of Justin Walker and Belinda McKenzie to set up frameworks for broad coalitions around truth and justice.  Perhaps they will succeed, but my instinct is to work closely with others who want a single issue campaign, such as Ian Neal, Annie Machon and Ian Henshall.

So that's my introduction.

Noel

Noel Glynn
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  Posted 12/05/2008 08:59:52 PM
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Welcome Noel, fellow persecuted comrade. And well-spoken DH for standing for free expression. I had already said publicly that it was my intention to not use the UK Forum if Gosling returned so being banned from it during his final days there though at first unpleasant wasn't such a big deal.

What is of greater concern to me are the overtones of tyranny to which the UK Forum is subject to at present. Hence the Hitler sketch by Louis de Funes which I found amusing and still do. Some people have said I never should have sent it to Gosling but my view is that if someone can't take a harmless joke like that then they've got something seriously wrong with them.

And that reflects very badly on a Forum which aspires to calling itself a Truth Movement. Instead of being that it has now become a Selective Truth pulpit for a very limited view of the world.

You may be interested to know that during the last few days, Gosling and Co. have succeeded in upsetting leading members of the Scottish Group, following which it has been decided that in future, as well as being happy to continue as a Group in the new UK Forum which WY will take over, it is very likely that we shall have an independent website and Forum.

All in all a heck of a lot of damage has been done under the Gosling administration and though few will say so in so many words we all know it. Ultimately though, I don't hold him entirely responsible for this. Both Ian Neal and the National Committee must also bear the responsibility for first having appointed him to that position and then for not controlling his arbitrary behaviour once in it.

On my being banned I wrote to Ian and the National Committee protesting my ban and pointing out that, according to the Forum's Rules and Principles the ban was unconstitutional. My appeal was simply ignored by Ian and most of the Committee bar two persons, one who represented Scotland which it is true to say is practically entirely alienated from the Gosling regime.

People who put expediency above ethics are not to be trusted and it is a sad thing that a national Truth Movement is being run on expediency, not ethics. For as I pointed out to them all in my final email on the subject, if they cannot protect themselves and contributors from a domestic tin-pot Hitler what chance do they have of fighting against something like the NWO?  

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