Police dogs could be forced to wear bootees when they search Muslim homes to avoid causing offence.

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The Association of Chief Police Officers came up with the suggestion to increase respect for cultural sensitivities as it draws up new guidelines on the use of police dogs.

Dogs are considered "unclean" in Islamic culture and many Muslims refuse to have direct contact with the animals.

It is understood the new guidance could include a recommendation that sniffer dogs should wear rubber-soled bootees when entering mosques and Muslim homes.

A spokesman for the association said: "Where possible the police will take cultural sensitivities into account, providing this does not interfere with effective operational policing."

Leading British imam Ibrahim Mogra said making sniffer dogs cover their feet would not be necessary.

He said: "In Islamic law the dog is not regarded as impure, only its saliva is. Most Islamic schools of law agree on that.

"If security measures require to send a dog into a house, then it has to be done."

I love walking my dog down the High Road and watching all the muslims run in terror! It's pretty pathetic to condemn any of God's creatures as unclean.
 If they don't like dogs or women in mini skirts then they shouldn't be living in the west!

We are a dog loving nation and most dog owners find the reaction of muslims to their dogs...very insulting. What about our sensibilities?
 I get just as angry at a friend of mine, a Christian, who dislikes dogs. He is always shooing my dog away from him when the poor dog is only being friendly. It really pisses me off.

And what makes you think Muslims hate dogs? I suggest you read and understand the subject first! Instead of falling for the bait.

Something that just reminded me that David Icke talked about. Being PC and playing one community of the other!
The funny thing is that the ONLY animal that is filthy is the Pig in Islam. The Dog's hygiene has always been a misconception in our culture!

And small skirts? You see me complaining?  

Interesting article and reactions.

I just spoke with a 'former muslim' colleague who took Islamic studies, who confirmed that dogs saliva is indeed considered Ḥarām  but not dogs themselves. They said that where a muslim is in contact with a dogs saliva must be washed for purification, the last time of which the washing should involve dirt/mud or dust. They weren't sure on where exactly refers to this offhand but suggested some of the Hadiiths and not the Quran itself. So the imam Ibrahim Mogra appears to be correct that most Islamic bodies of law agree on this point. My friend suggested that dogs were fine as working pets in various forms but that no actual Islamic doctrine states that dogs themselves are impure, or to be avoided. Wikipedia backs such assertions here;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unclean_animals

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Dogs Dogs are considered unclean according to some who study Islamic law. However, a Saluki, such as above, is in some cases cherished by Muslims. Dogs are mentioned in the holy book of Islam the Quran several times e.g. in the main story of sura 18 where a dog is a companion of the dwellers of the Cave. The Quran also tells that it is permissible to eat what trained dogs catch (5:4). Nevertheless, many[who?] Islamic teachers state dogs should be considered unclean and that Muslims licked by them must perform purification. According to Hadith, anything a dog touches must be washed seven times, the final time in dust[9]. Some religious traditions hold that if a dog passes in front of someone preparing to pray, that it pollutes their purity and negates the prayer. Trading dogs for money has been discouraged by the Prophet of Islam, Muhammad. According to the majority of Muslims, dogs can be owned by farmers, hunters, and shepherds, for the purpose of hunting and guarding only. Another exception appears to be made by the Bedouin in the case of the Saluki. They are allowed in the tents and considered special companions. It has been said that the Bedouin will never sell a Saluki, but will give one as a special and precious gift.

However they went on to describe without prompting, that some fairly high profile muslims they have known, have indeed avoided dogs in public with a very wide berth and when questioned as to why, have responded that "Dogs are a filthy animal". Seemingly a misinterpretation by individual muslims. Perhaps they were on the way to prayer and didn't wish to raise such a topic? Pulp Fiction springs to mind as another animals aren't pure argument.

Quote :

[VINCENT] You want some bacon? [JULES] No, man, I don't eat pork. [VINCENT] Are you Jewish ? [JULES] No, I ain't Jewish, i just don't dig on swine, that's all. [VINCENT] Why not? [JULES] Pigs are filthy animals. I don't eat filthy animals. [VINCENT] But bacon tastes good, pork chops taste good... [JULES] Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, But I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherfuckers. Pigs sleep and root in shit, that's a filthy animal. I don't eat nothin' that ain't got sense enough to disregard its own feces. [VINCENT] How about a dog? A dog eats its own feces [JULES] I don't eat dog either [VINCENT] Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal? [JULES] I wouldn't go so far as to call a dog filthy, but it's definately dirty. But, dogs got personality, personality goes a long way. [VINCENT] So by that rationale, if a pig had a better personality, he would cease to be a filty animal. Is that true? [JULES] We' have to be talkin' 'bout one charmin' motherfuckin' pig. I mean he'd have to be ten times more charmin' than that Arnold on Green Acres, you know what I'm sayin'?

Wikipedia continues on Islamic views here;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogs_in_religion

Quote :

"Islamic tradition considers dogs to be unclean and most Muslims do not keep pet dogs. There are a number of traditions concerning Muhammad's attitude towards dogs. He said that the company of dogs, except as helpers in hunting, herding, and home protection, voided a portion of a Muslim's good deeds. On the other hand, he advocated kindness to dogs and other animals. In one story, it is said that a prostitute was at a well and was about to take a drink when she noticed a dog which was so thirsty, it was trying to drink the sand. Out of mercy, she gave the dog the first drink out of her shoe. When God saw this, he forgave her sins."

So Allah perhaps doesn't mind dogs and indeed Muhammed advocates kindness to them. Though it perhaps helps if they allow male sinners to make up for their wretched life choices and abuses of disadvantaged women in the trade of placating male desires with or without marriage.

Admittedly it doesn't state that she went on to wash her shoe six times and then bury it in the sand, this we can presume perhaps as an absolved, though it doesn't state she converted either, merely that her sins were forgiven.

Therefore surely it follows that the sins of all prostitutes, given that they are largely the same sin, that which is asked of them by men in various needs, are surely cleared for all time and prostitutes should be considered the unoriginal sinners and devoid of all need to confess, devoid of all guilt for their actions and above dogs in both general pyramids of life and in dangerous saliva arguments?.... No.... I thought not.

Wiki continues to say;

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Islam In Islamic dietary laws several animals are considered unclean and not to be eaten (Haraam), while others are permitted (Halaal), as long as they have been killed or slaughtered in the correct manner. The Qur'an states:    "Forbidden to you are: dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine, and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than Allah. that which hath been killed by strangling, or by a violent blow, or by a headlong fall, or by being gored to death; that which hath been eaten by a wild animal; unless ye are able to slaughter it; that which is sacrificed on stone [Altar?]; [forbidden] also is the division by raffling with arrows: that is impiety..." – Al-Maidah 5:3 According to Muslims the most important condition is that bismillah (pronouncing the name of Allah) be performed at the time of slaughter. Also important is that the meat of those animals were ended by Zabiha (Sharia slaughter) of which tasmiyah is a condition. If not those animals are considered Maytah (carrion) and are expressly forbidden. The meat of animals slaughtered by a Kafir (unbeliever) or Mushrik (polytheist) is also forbidden, though the Quran does permit eating food of the people of the book:    " Today I have made permissible for you pure things and the food of those who were given the Book (Ahlul-Kitaab) is also Halal for you." – Al-Maida 5:5

Along with the wiki page on unclean animals, it seems to be suggested that many of natures animals are considered bad news under various religions. Under Islam however it states that various animals unless slaughtered in special ways and not by Kafir's are indeed untouchable.  Here I would ask whether muslims are that certain that Halal meats have somehow managed to keep themselves inline with such guidance on a mass scale?  

This film refers to all animal sufferring at human hands but at the part 23:50 mins inwards it looks at so called Kosher slaughterhouse practices for the Jewish beliefes and finds them very wanting.

http://sprword.com/videos/earthlings/

Does any proof exist that good to heart muslims are not partaking in haram practices when they buy halal meat in good faith? I have no idea but I wager they will be in for a surprise.

What I do find distasteful is that meat slaughtered in any manner is deemed carrion, and more so that it is definately deemed so if slaughtered by a non muslim. That smacks of elitism and frankly eugenic leading dangerous territory.

Personally the article is Sus and smells of bait for further Islamaphobia on a reactionary basis but the fact that many muslims perhaps need to revisit their texts and seek guidance from accepted bodies, as to its actual meaning, is perhaps also valid.

To me the article missed the point on both sides however, as I feel pretty certain that any muslim or mosque, would have sensitivities harmed more by an invasion of the police acting like swine, (who by a colloquialism are often referred to as pigs)under any real or imagined EU power of action.  I very much doubt that the Forrest gate chemical weapon / child porn alleged brothers, would have felt much redress of their grievances had the sniffer dogs (that helped rip their family home apart, on the basis of a media labelled retarded persons tip off), had rubber booties on!  

No, I kinda think that having a copper shoot you in the chest in your Pj's and then kick you in the face whilst proclaiming "Where is your god now?" would take precedent, over what the dogs were upto!

Perhaps I'm being picky though, as they have been compensated,.... much to many peoples disgust afterall.

Apologies for the double posting but...

I'd like to point out that the 'preview post' before sending option doesn't appear to work, as I just had to delete a ton of versions of my above post that followed distractions from my kids and such like whilst I wrote it and sought out various links.

Anyway, animal saliva is perhaps worth a look into in terms of being dirty as surely all animal saliva is, human included.

I was always under the impression that cat based injuries carried more risk than dogs but perhaps it is a myth. A dog almost killed me when I was seven but it was human error, (the attack and saving) which meant it didn't. The dog had everyone's best interest at heart including my own. Sadly they put it down when it bit another child in mocking, not real intent. he was just an obnoxious brat, I was worse but left to prove it.

Cats appear to carry a fairly virulent disease http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat-scratch_disease which perhaps dogs don't but I had always been led to believe that cats, given their diet of true carrion, if they are hunters in their own time, would lead to worse infections if bitten. Perhaps it is nonsense though, as perhaps dogs saliva having need of avoidance.

It's interesting that ancient Eygpt regarded pigs as symbolic of the Sun god Horus rival Set, forbidding them from entering temples. Though that's wiki again, therefore checkable by the masses and correctable by the few who give a rats.

I would like a muslim perspective on Christopher Hitchens arguments for 'Why heaven hates ham' from his 'Short digression on the pig' ch3 of his book 'God is not Great, why religion poisons everything'. A poor quality youtube video offers the audio but nothing more than pigs are cute, or BBQ fodder to back up his thoughts. It appears to be the only online offering to his statements, so I apoplogise for the distasteful elements.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaZKd4GoaCw


 

Just to note that Montauk-raised Stewart Swerdlow contends that domestic pigs are a genetically-engineered combination of wild boar and human genes created by the visiting ETs of ancient times. Hence the burnt pork smell prevalent around the active crematorium.
And the residual beliefs and practice of the Judaic and Islamic religions