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dh wrote :   That sounds like on offer I could hardly refuse. Can we  arrange a time, place and date for this essential therapy? Don't tell me you could do it remotely. Ah, what chances these forums throw up!

I thought that would get you going! I don't do shaktipat, but can I suggest some super strength skunk or high grade sensimillia in the meantime? ;-)

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That sounds like on offer I could hardly refuse. Can we  arrange a time, place and date for this essential therapy? Don't tell me you could do it remotely. Ah, what chances these forums throw up!

Well, there's always distance reiki. Do you do that as well, OG?

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but can I suggest some super strength skunk or high grade sensimillia in the meantime? ;-)

Ooh, I envy you lucky people down there with all these specialities at the tobacconists!  

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Oh well, if these young devotees "enjoyed" having sex with a seventy year old perv... that's ok then! Sheesh!

No, I didn't say that. What I said was that of those who claimed that Baba had sexually molested or abused them no one appears to have objected to him doing this or attempted to stop him. They all say that he just went ahead and did it.

So why didn't any of them try to prevent him from doing these acts if they objected? Either they allowed him to or were scared to stop him thinking he was God. So was that it? Were they intimidated?

In the latter case they must take part of the responsibility for being so gullible and/or confused to believe such a thing. Note, I am not suggesting this happened. I am speculating.

Of the one person I met and spoke with personally, he claimed that Baba had touched his privates and stimulated them. When this person related this to me he didn't express any disgust. Instead he giggled. Maybe he was nervous about telling it me. However, I am not at all sure he was telling me the truth, exaggerating or spinning me a yarn.

I have read some similar stories but have no way of checking their veracity. The question that has always been on my mind has been if these incidents were orchestrated by the CIA. The reason why I, again, make such a speculation is that Baba is known to have said some very negative things about the USA (who doesn't?) and to have condemned the worship of materialism that mostly emanated from that country.

I know from personal experience that he frowns upon the loud, brash behaviour of some of his North American devotees having heard him say to them, "You're not in America now!"

Bearing in mind that Baba has had a great following in North America and elsewhere it is not impossible that the CIA might have tried some such op. There was one known incident when he came close to possible assassination. Again, we can only wonder.

We know the CIA do such things as witness the hundreds of attempts on Fidel Castro. But Fidel outwitted them everytime and continues as the Grand Old Man of the Cuban Revolution. He's the same age as Sai Baba, both now 83 I think.  

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Please do not compare a great hero of mine, Fidel, with a freak like Sai Baba.

Again, is this forum being hacked? I'm having a great deal of trouble posting stuff and reading comments.

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Please do not compare a great hero of mine, Fidel, with a freak like Sai Baba.

Don't be daft, lad. I was only noting that they appear to have been born in the same year. I'm glad Fidel is your hero. He's mine too so at least we have that in common!



Here's his latest Reflections from Granma International:

http://www.granma.cu/ingles/2008/mayo/lun26/Reflections-26may.html  

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quote: 'So why didn't any of them try to prevent him from doing these acts if they objected...'

For the same reason children allow father's to molest them. Ignorance, fear, intimidation, confusion. However, I have considered the possibility that the people making these claims were 'mind-control' victims, planted by CIA to defame Sai Baba.

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However, I have considered the possibility that the people making these claims were 'mind-control' victims, planted by CIA to defame Sai Baba.

Leaving aside all the pro's and con's and controversies about this figure the fact is that he has a public profile across the Planet. And the fact that he has spoken out against the USA and its 'values' obviously makes him a target for the CIA and their associated dirty tricks organisations.

You don't even have to speak out. As Operation Gladio proved, passive groups in the so-called 'friendly' countries are, from time to time, terrorised and killed to suit the Atlanticist agenda. And more recently Israel joined the terrorists being, no doubt, behind 911, 77 and how many other similar incidents?

Certainly, since these stories about Baba have been circulating the numbers who follow him have dropped off remarkably. He must have had a premonition about this because two or three decades ago he predicted that the day would come when many off his followers would desert him in flocks, leaving just a few.

That has now happened. My question is did he behave in such a way deliberately to fullfil this prediction? Or was he just tuning into both human nature and to the future?