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 M.O
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  Posted 19/03/2008 11:47:42 PM
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Support the Irish 'No to Lisbon Treaty' Campaign

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h145/quizzard_2006/Irelandnocampaign.jpg

The UK has been denied to have its say on the treasonous treaty of Lisbon, so all that can be done is support the only country in the whole of Europe that is so doing (but only because their constitution demands it). The No Campaign in Ireland is strong and gethering pace, and I for one shall do all I can to support their effort. Talk to Irish friends, relatives, acquiantances; tell them what they are voting for, and remind them of these few simple words from the Irish Proclamation of Independence:

Quote :

"We declare the right of the people of Ireland to the ownership of Ireland, and to the unfettered control of Irish destinies, to be sovereign and indefeasible."




Or, in the words of one of Europe's elite;

Quote :

"We decide on something. We leave it lying around and wait and see what happens. If no one kicks up a fuss, because most poeple don't know what has been decided, we continue step by step until there is no turning back."
- Luxembourg Prime Minister Jean-Claude Juncker,  The Economist, 24 September 2004




See:

VoteNo.ie
http://www.voteno.ie/

We are Change Ireland
http://www.wacireland.org/
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4291770489472554607&hl=en

Libertas
http://www.libertas.org/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/

Socialist World
http://socialistworld.net/eng/2008/02/15irelaa.html

Irish Indymedia
http://www.indymedia.ie/article/85755
http://ireland.indymedia.org/article/86335  

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 Uselesseater
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  Posted 20/03/2008 00:38:54 AM
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 M.O
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  Posted 20/03/2008 00:51:37 AM
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Cheers for the link Uselesseater.

Although reading that the EU has made a provision to amend treaties without any referendum and only the slightest involvement of the member states will not help me sleep better at night!

Article 48 is a dangerous prospect. Anyone who can deceipher the rest of this incomprehensible treaty please get back to me.

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  Posted 03/04/2008 06:06:55 PM
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Typicaly the page with the treaty on it has dissapeared now and you are left with the propagandous FOC front page with no indication where to find the treaty, I know they must do this on purpose.

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 M.O
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  Posted 04/04/2008 00:06:50 AM
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  Posted 16/04/2008 10:39:27 PM
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Article 48



1. The Treaties may be amended in accordance with an ordinary revision procedure. They may also be amended in accordance with simplified revision procedures.

Ordinary revision procedure

2. The Government of any Member State, the European Parliament or the Commission may submit to the Council proposals for the amendment of the Treaties on which the Union is founded. These proposals may, inter alia, serve either to increase or to reduce the competences conferred on the Union in the Treaties. These proposals shall be submitted to the European Council by the Council and the national Parliaments shall be notified.

3. If the European Council, after consulting the European Parliament and the Commission, adopts by a simple majority a decision in favour of examining the proposed amendments, the President of the European Council shall convene a Convention composed of representatives of the national Parliaments, of the Heads of State or Government of the Member States, of the European Parliament and of the Commission. The European Central Bank shall also be consulted in the case of institutional changes in the monetary area. The Convention shall examine the proposals for amendments and shall adopt by consensus a recommendation to a conference of representatives of the governments of the Member States as provided for in paragraph 4.

The European Council may decide by a simple majority, after obtaining the consent of the European Parliament, not to convene a Convention should this not be justified by the extent of the proposed amendments. In the latter case, the European Council shall define the terms of reference for a conference of representatives of the governments of the Member States.

4. A conference of representatives of the governments of the Member States shall be convened by the President of the Council for the purpose of determining by common accord the amendments to be made to the Treaties.

The amendments shall enter into force after being ratified by all the Member States in accordance with their respective constitutional requirements.

5. If, two years after the signature of a treaty amending the Treaties, four fifths of the Member States have ratified it and one or more Member States have encountered difficulties in proceeding with ratification, the matter shall be referred to the European Council.

Simplified revision procedure

6. The Government of any Member State, the European Parliament or the Commission may submit to the European Council proposals for revising all or part of the provisions of Part Three of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union relating to the internal policies and action of the Union.

The European Council may adopt a decision amending all or part of the provisions of Part Three of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. The European Council shall act by unanimity after consulting the European Parliament and the Commission, and the European Central Bank in the case of institutional changes in the monetary area. That decision shall not come into force until it has been approved by the Member States in accordance with their respective constitutional requirements.

The decision referred to in the second subparagraph shall not increase the competences conferred on the Union in the Treaties.

7. Where the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union or Title V of this Treaty provides for the Council to act by unanimity in a given area or case, the European Council may adopt a decision authorising the Council to act by a qualified majority in that area or in that case. This paragraph shall not apply to decisions with military implications or those in the area of defence.

When the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union provides for legislative acts to be adopted by the Council in accordance with a special legislative procedure, the European Council may adopt a decision allowing for the adoption of such acts in accordance with the ordinary legislative procedure.

Any initiative taken by the European Council on the basis of the first or the second subparagraph shall be notified to the national Parliaments. If a national Parliament makes known its opposition within six months of the date of such notification, the decision referred to in the first or the second subparagraph shall not be adopted. In the absence of opposition, the European Council may adopt the decision.

For the adoption of the decisions referred to in the first and second subparagraphs, the European Council shall act by unanimity after obtaining the consent of the European Parliament, which shall be given by a majority of its component members.

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 M.O
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  Posted 19/04/2008 01:30:38 AM
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So, in 500 words or so you decipher that incomprehensible guff. Prize goes to the best entry.

 M.O
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  Posted 03/05/2008 01:33:41 PM
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Businessman wins legal bid to fight EU treaty vote.

Businessman Stuart Wheeler is now free to launch a judicial review against the government's decision to ratify the Lisbon treaty without a public vote.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUKWRI24469920080502

 Uselesseater
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  Posted 03/05/2008 10:45:07 PM
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Great news!

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 M.O
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  Posted 12/06/2008 03:26:02 PM
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The Irish vote today (result should be out on Friday) on the Lisbon Treaty. This is the only referendum in the whole of Europe on this undemocratic and treasonous treaty. For the love of humanity, vote NO!

Also, the case launched by Stuart Wheeler demanding a referendum is currently going through the High Court:
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/opinion/Stuart-Wheeler-Let-the-people.4159473.jp

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  Posted 13/06/2008 03:48:27 PM
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And the result's a resound No. Well done the Irishhttp://www.aceboard.net/kator/clap.abgif

 M.O
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  Posted 13/06/2008 04:21:14 PM
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Too right! Not as resounding as I might have hoped, anything under 100% No disappoints me! Thank you Ireland, I'll have a Guinness on you to celebrate this evening.

For a full break down of results this link is the best I have found:
http://www.ireland.com/focus/thelisbontreaty/interactive/results.html

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