I’ve said it often, they want Ian Huntley to die in jail, he is a liability, his memory might return. They want 'closure.' He has already been made a hate figure on a par with Fred West, Ian Brady and Harold Shipman.  We are being conditioned for one of his ‘suicide attempts’ to succeed (in a high security prison.) The press will treat it as a cause for celebration. Good riddance to the Soham killer! Who cares?

I do, he is an innocent man...

This article goes further and advocates assisted suicide as being the ‘humane’ alternative for prisoners!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=485128&in_page_id=1770

Why not let Ian Huntley take his own life?

As doctors are allowed to switch off patients, Ian Huntley's third suicide bid poses the question

The Soham murderer, Ian Huntley, has attempted suicide for the third time. He was taken to hospital after a suspected overdose at Wakefield Prison.

The newly formed Ministry of Justice - how un-English it sounds - has already called for an investigation into how the double killer, who was supposedly under 'suicide watch', had   access to drugs which were potentially lethal.

That question might be important, but in a sense it is no more than a detail.

It is actually hard not to feel extremely sorry for prison staff who are obliged to keep potentially suicidal prisoners under constant observation.

In prisons which are overcrowded with mentally unstable offenders, with drug addicts and depressives, the ordinary 'screw' is simply not equipped, neither with the skills of a psychiatric nurse nor the limitless time of the round-the-clock carer, to make sure that tragic accidents never occur.
We all know what Ian Huntley did. The majority of people in this country probably support a death sentence for crimes of such magnitude as his.

He deliberately set out to kidnap and to kill two children.
Had he been hanged, the story would at least have had an ending, though not a happy one.

Is it appropriate that a figure such as Huntley should be given anti-depressant drugs or, indeed, any but the most basic medical treatment?

Putting it quite bluntly, would any of us care if he committed suicide?

The answer is no, but I would want to go further than that.
While I do not want to restore the gallows and the noose, I think that the present long-term imprisonment of serious criminals is inhumane, both to the prisoners and to their victims.

Both yearn for what psychology calls 'closure', and you can not have a closure less ambiguous than death.

If Huntley cannot bear his own existence, would it not be better, more dignified, to allow him his will?

In the case of such figures as him and Shipman, we should not blame the screws for allowing it to happen.

We should, rather, encourage prison authorities to turn a blind eye to the suicide attempts of very serious criminals.

The suicide programming obviously remains secure

It doesn't matter how secure the programming is, in a high security prison, on suicide watch, he would need assistance. There is more about this "evil, reviled, monster" in the tabloids today, to keep up the momentum.

The evidence against Huntley in DNA terms is absent, yet he may believe he did the dastardly deed. In the McCann's case, the DNA evidence is full on, yet they believe that they have no connection to the d*** d***
Could you explain that anomalous situation?
Well, I think you can
And please explain the wanted outcomes of each case in words of one parable
Thanx, dh  

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Huntley is innocent, the McCann's are guilty.

Huntley must die, the McCann's must be free.

Ah yes.
Would be the result of the topsy turvy logic abroad.
Perfect summation

LET HIM DIE, as simple as that, the evidence seems to be overwhelming in the huntley case.

Posted by someone who is so obviously ignorant of the Soham case!

Suggesting Huntley is innocent is like holocaust denial, you risk being shot down in flames. It show how effective media conditioning is. The only "overwhelming evidence" is Huntley's "confession" extracted after being sectioned, without charge, at Rampton High Security Mental Hospital for a year.

I've proposed a Huntley for PM elsewhere. He might not be much good at it, but at least has in his favour that on the balance of probabilities he didn't kill young children, but in Brown and Cameron's case, there is undeniable evidence that they have colluded in the murder of thousands upon thousands of children  

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Dh

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I've proposed a Huntley for PM elsewhere. He might not be much good at it, but at least has in his favour that on the balance of probabilities he didn't kill young children, but in Brown and Cameron's case, there is undeniable evidence that they have colluded in the murder of thousands upon thousands of children

Thats so spot on.  I presume some of this pro Huntley stance is based on Joe Viallis account of the case. Would that be right?  I must admit when i found that information, it certainly opened my eyes to what probably could be a mis-carriage of justice to put it mildly. A fuckin outrage otherwise. I doubt anyone can ever prove it well enough, is the problem. If its true that Huntley was fitted up for this and re-programmed to go along, then its a truly sad world.  

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London Mick wrote : Posted by someone who is so obviously ignorant of the Soham case!

With 4 children one shall remain ignorant when people like the accused huntley are in our society, he may not have done it, however, there are indications he did, is every police man in on the "huntley conspiracy ?"  "Lets just nail huntley for the fun of it." I realise there is corrupt police in the force who plant evidence etc etc..., (didnt at least one of the investigating officers get knabbed for looking at internet child porn, the one who read something in the church for the 2 girls ?, i could be wrong). I just cant see on this level of crime involving the murder of 2 young innocents to be "fabricated" as such. Of course there has been people wrongly accused in the past, as will be the future, but, who gains out of huntley being the fall guy if this is what you claim he is, the family ?, wouldnt they want true justice faced with the facts, have the family raised any doubts ? if so i have missed something. Are these familys "in with it" as folks are now speculating about the mc'canns ? i would say not. Untill i am faced with the facts (maybe you could provide them to me, as you seem to know the "facts" about huntley)huntley can rot in hell for his crimes if he is behind them. He was known in his hometown for chasing the young girls about, maybe this isnt enough to go on, however, the DNA evidence, the time and place, and no good explanation when faced. I could be wrong, but if he did do it i go with my other comment "let him die", i dont agree with the death sentence, on the other hand, i dont believe in kiddy fiddlers either. So give them the oppurtunity to kill themselves. This may be absurd to say this when i class myself pro-life, but in the case of child killers, i do not sympathise whatsoever !!!!

Hi itwasntme,

Some people believe that Ian Huntley is just a “Fall guy” and that the murders were carried out by members of the US forces located at or passing through Lakenheath.

This is an interesting site:
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=1244



Robert.

Thanks for that robyork, this does put a different perspective on it, this is the 1st i knew of the USAF army base near by, however, they couldnt stop 911 getting out the bag, so in this case i think some one would have come forward by now, because if it went as high as blair more people would be involved. As there been a real leak from the USAF base, or is the article just speculation ?? I know cover ups are possible but i do find in this case huntley may well be the man. Why is'nt huntleys family being outspoken about this (unless they have, i havnt noticed if so), I havnt seen no protest anywhere regarding this USAF base scenario, i know the media is corrupt at the highest level, but i havnt seen no other article with demands from his family. If he was my relation and i knew of something that may prove his innocence, i would be screaming in the streets on a daily basis, i realise its easy saying this but i would, on the other hand if i knew he was guilty i would also shout, telling how sad i was to have a scumball like this in the family. I suppose time will tell, this may not be a good thing for huntley if he is innocent.

So for now i will remain a sceptic, and stick with "if" he did, he can kill himself now. If sometime in the future evidence came to light showing some scumball from the USAF base did it, i would obviously change my tune. I havnt the time to spend trying to uncover possible facts about huntley, if someone else wants to thats fine with me, and good luck. For now i will stick with the facts on 911 and police injustice etc etc where its visible to see.

Thanx.

Yes itwasntme, please read closely http://www.vialls.com/hollyjessica/who_really_murdered_holly_wells_.htm
and
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=5337
Stick to safer stuff by all means.
Things to note
the American serviceman stuff is only conjecture, tho the site of deposition was very close to the Lakenheath perimeter and observable from the control tower
The small size of the Fiesta boot into which he was to have shoved two dead 10 year olds in broad daylight
The absurd lack of DNA evidence
The transformation of Huntley from a televisual witness before his arrest to a sectionable psychotic immediately after his arrest, within the space of two days
The enlistment of nine government-sponsored psychiatrists who found him wanting of the ability to stand trial and got him incarcerated in Rampton (primarily for the dual diagnosed learning disability/mental illness person)
Filled him full of psychotropic drugs
His outrageous personal testimony that no decent defence counsel should have allowed, as noone could possibly have believed it apart from Huntley himself
His elucidating testimonywhere he said, to paraphrase, " I couldn't remember what happened. I heard voices saying 'you must have killed her'"
The killings may well not have been by a US army guy, maybe just a high profile ritual thing intended for the media, and the id chip agenda
Cheers for your enthusiastic contributions here
Lovely to have you aboard
Keep it up  

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A guy from the Probe conference said that 15 children per week are found dead in the New Forest and that operatives from the Met spirit away the files on a weekly basis
The local cops are never able to examine the circumstances
Could this be true?

My own analyses of this case:

http://www.illuminati-news.com/102006b.htm

I made one error in this article when I wrote: "During his trial, Huntley told an incredulous story about how the girls died accidentally in his bathroom..."

In fact, he didn't say any such thing in court, his lawyer Steven Coward QC said it!

We were not supposed to believe this tall tale, but draw our own erroneous conclusions.

I might add, the cause of death was never revealed by the coroner, or that any sexual molestation took place.

We are supposed to jump to that conclusion ourselves.

I must say that after reading the articles what all your links provided does put a different angle to the huntley case, it does seem that not many questions were raised concerning lakenheath. It now looks a bit more plausable. As we all know here, the abuse in this country is out of control without some USAF personel adding to it. It would be the BIGGEST mis-carriage of justice if huntley was indeed an innocent man, and a mis-carriage of justice for all our parents and children of this fast becoming "hated" country. Its obvious these leaders are corrupt and carry no empathy towards the general public. I realise most of the public wouldnt believe that ritual sacrafice is still happening today, so maybe this is what as happened here, so understandably there would be a cover up, and as stated above for the "ally", "shoulder to shouldier" stance that blair was sounding off in support of the US this wouldnt come as a suprise to me. I will now keep a more open mind on this subject and not let my emotions get in the way without at least looking into cases more indepth.

I fear for ALL children not just my own, its a f*****g tragedy when familys are confronted with disspicable acts of this nature, one cannot imagine the tortue these folks go through, and i suspect that they just want someone in court for their losses, so its not hard to see how someone like huntley and maybe more could be made a fall guy. Too many travestys of justice occur in this country like in many others, especially in countries what carry the death penalty.

I can say now after looking at this that i am 50/50 with this, sat on the fence as to speak after reading the articles. It just shows how someone like me with an open mind can still get sucked in by the "media circus" that tries to zone our minds into the collective thinking/mentallity of the public.

quote: It just shows how someone like me with an open mind can still get sucked in by the "media circus" that tries to zone our minds into the collective thinking/mentallity of the public.

Don't we all?

It's not easy to think for yourself when you are being told what to think!

Quote:  It's not easy to think for yourself when you are being told what to think!

EXACTLY.  

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