I must be a Doom merchant - keep posting bad news!!
The World has gone mad!!!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6257194.stm  

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Yes it has!
Someone made a good point on the www.nineeleven.co.uk
that it seems like an unplanned one.
Bomb doesnt go off and its probably a terrorist plot,and damage is caused and an explosion takes place and its not certain whether it is or not. Could it be that todays event was not inside orchestrated?
Im shocked and feeling very annoyed with the injustice of it all.

Could be militant climate changists; a burning jeep tries to blow up an airport. Would do about as much good as that daft little march they did on Drax power station last summer.

I'm not being entirely serious here, but it doesn't look like anyone is. In the BBC article a govt spokesbloke says they are NOT treating it as 'a national security threat'!!! Should there be another Bill and Ted style 'Not!' at the end of that govt statement too?

Is it another roundabout way of asking people to plea for tightned security? The witnesses also dont have their stories very straight either...  

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Do people who are actually in the process of self-immolating normally throw punches, while shouting Allah, Allah? Would they indeed be capable? Seems to be a deeper driving force here and it ain't just religion.
Bizarre

dh,

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Do people who are actually in the process of self-immolating normally throw punches, while shouting Allah, Allah?

That was my first thought. Not a sign of a Martyr. Nore of a Botch up job!

If you look at these so called car bombs you will see that not one of them actually exploded and were unlikely to explode. gas canisters don't always exlode just because they are surrounded by fire. I'm sure any fireman can tell you that. The whole arrangement doesn't make for a good bomb. Nails scattered on the back seat? Containers of petrol? Even if the small gas cylinders did go off they wouldn't have caused all that much damage. The blast would have been mostly contained in the car. A few windows might have been broken. We are not talking about high explosives here.
Why were there two men in the jeep? Surely one "suicide" bomber would have been enough?

God it's so hard to live in this mad world sometimes where everybody believes the official lies without question. Armed police out on the highways and at rail stations. People being stopped and searched and new legislation being rushed through taking away even more rights. 90 days detention nwo before being charged is likely. What else?

This comment from Mike Rivero on What Really Happened.com makes a lot of sense to me........

   WRH: I am still of the opinion that someone was rushing to get a friend to the airport to catch a flight, swerved to avoid hitting someone or something and hit the building. The car burst into flames and everyone screamed "TERROR", "TERROR", and now that all the politicians are using it as an excuse for agendas, nobody wants to look bad by backing off the terror claim and admitting they all over-reacted.

Sounds plausible.

Its a farce. But sadly not for anyone who is, or even looks Muslim. These are times of great deceit.
Maybe a silly question but>Does anyone have access to knowing our rights if stopped by Police etc?
If young people dont have access to this knowledge their confusion or non cooperation towards authority may serve them badly. Warrant searches, answering questions, giving ID?  How does it go? Thanks, Evesky x

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Does anyone have access to knowing our rights if stopped by Police etc?

I dont have anything like this at hand. I hope someone posts a link to it. Or I shall try Google it!

I know we are all in it, but its so worrying for me. I am really fed up of this, because of the fact I am a Muslim.

Infact, I have a meeting tomorrow to create a strategy for our clerics of Mosques to at least speak out.

They are like lame Ducks!!! Dont do nothing, except pray. All this rubbish about that they teach extreamism in Mosques is tosh! No Church, Mosque or any place of worship teaches you to kill innocent people.

A huge sector of the British public have fallen for the bait and its a damn shame.

Are we running out of time?

Thanks Riaz,
No, we are not running out of time. As the ignorant get more zombiefied the awoken are getting stronger.
But people have to be sure of their rights and be strong in their centres.
The key is good open communication and sharing of the breakign down of propaganda.

"Kind words can unlock an iron door" Kurdish Proverb  

--Last edited by evesky on 2007-07-01 22:29:53 --

Riaz, you are a pure and beautiful Muslim because you've declared against all terrorism whatever its source.
The bastard state can't get you at this time because of your position
Those who are holy and pray and seek to serve and observe are most at risk if they do nothing else.
You are protected at the present time by doing your real service to humanity.
The bulk of muslims must know and understand this.
It'll provide a bulwark against the new holocaust  

--Last edited by dh on 2007-07-02 00:22:12 --

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Does anyone have access to knowing our rights if stopped by Police etc?

Everybody should have this access, but most seem content to leave it to those perennial 'do-gooder' organisation types Amnesty and their ilk. Within all legislation covering Police powers to stop, search, arrest and detain should contain codes of practice on action taken, or provisions made within the act itself. The main ones to start with are;
Police and Criminal Evidence Act - http://police.homeoffice.gov.uk/operational-policing/powers-pace-codes/pace-code-intro/
Crime and Disorder Act - http://www.communitysafety.gov.uk/cdact1.htm
Serious Organised Crime and Police Act, the one about no protests near Parliament, Brian Haw and the contentious ‘inciting religious hatred’ bits - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serious_Organised_Crime_and_Police_Act_2005

Happy reading, if they are still in date that is, because quite often amending Acts make provisions obsolete within the space of time you had to read the Act in the first place. It is mind-numbingly turgid stuff however as the below link on the powers enabled by Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994;

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1994/Ukpga_19940033_en_1.htm

They are all now available quite readily to all of us, but did it ever occur to you how lawyers make their money? It's because they read it. And also because they are trained to be able to comprehend the antiquated legalese jargon, but that's a secondary issue. Very little scrutiny of the reams of legislation now passed, particularly the delegated Home Office powers concerning Policing and ‘security’, is done now by Parliament, not when there’s those all so serious debates such as smoking bans, home seller packs, and unrelenting meddling with the House of Lords and other constitutional admin. So it’s left to us. Find out your rights, scrutinise Parliament like a concerned citizenry should.

Thanks  holymowlam

If it it was indeed a genuine attace and not some accident as suggested by Rivero then you can almost guarantee the following.

1) The 'perps' will be educationaly sub normal - iq of around 70 or mentaly ill.

2) Links to either MI6 or the Pakistani SIS if they visited there recently. i.e. a 'handler' will emerge who is an intel asset of some kind.

Thanks for the links Moly.  

By the way -
If you have nothing better to do on Wednesday nights ( and you want to listen to me babbling on) - you can hear me regularly on Islam Radio at 8pm to 9pm.

http://www.islamradiodigital.com/

I shall be promoting the William R event for Burnely this week, which will nicely tie in with the Terror attacks over the past weekend!

Only available on DAB!

[cit]Riaz A wrote : By the way -
If you have nothing better to do on Wednesday nights ( and you want to listen to me babbling on) - you can hear me regularly on Islam Radio at 8pm to 9pm.


Hi Riaz,

Shout the Truth LOUD and CLEAR !!!

Take no prisoners !!!



Robert.

Gordon Brown's initiation as the Illuminati front-man in the UK is followed, the NEXT DAY, by botched terror attacks. He rose to the occasion and made the 'war speech' he has been rehearsing for months, with all the familiar soundbits, 'resolve' 'duty' 'vigilance' unity

I hadn't finished.... as Brown is a Scot, it was only natural to stage events in Glasgow. No-one was killed by this blazing car, not even the "suicide bomber" yet it was described as a potential WMD.

Every time this happens they demand MORE LAWS to tackle the problem. INCREASED RANDOM SEARCHES, INCREASED DETENTION WITHOUT TRIAL, INCREASED SURVEILLANCE.... and on and on...

A newspaper headline today read - 'Our human rights are more important that THEIRS!'

Which means we must deny individuals human rights and due legal process, to protect our human and civil rights.

DOUBLETHINK ALERT!

Sadly, the gullible public welcomes this and once agian, innocent Muslims will bear the brunt, for now, but eventually all Brits of all persuations will be under suspicion and subjected to intrusive police state measures.

Expect more dawn raids....